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	<title>Comments on: Review: Indianapolis Library Expansion &#8211; Part Two: Artwork</title>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.urbanophile.com/2008/03/16/review-indianapolis-library-expansion-part-two-artwork/comment-page-1/#comment-5273</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 13:15:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I saw this sculpture first from a distance and was drawn to it like a magnet. I love it. It looks fantastic next to the library and adds some lightness and caprice – an odd smile to an otherwise austere and somber setting. The Giacometti/Salvador Dali-like slimman seems lost (likely because he has no head), wandering the city in search of truth (or a head!), and we below are helpless to assist because he is a menacing giant. And the donutbird reminds me of Billy Collins&#039;s poems, all of them, where little birds are always tangential to the plot (like &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.poemhunter.com/poem/madmen/#&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Madmen&lt;/a&gt;). &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What did ya&#039;ll want, a bunch of kids reading books? How about a monument to Thoreau or Emerson because, you know, they wrote books and this is, well . . . a library. Or how about &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.traveloregon.com/upload/images/photos/attractions/300px-portlandia.jpg&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; Portlandia &lt;/a&gt;? I like Portlandia, but partly because it is juxtaposed against the postmodern Grave&#039;s building and isn&#039;t just another neo-classical element in a predictable and symmetrical neo-classical scene. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Public input ruins so many projects. The WWII memorial in DC is a fine example. Besides, your view is inundated by acres of economically efficient, garbage aesthetics that you had no say in defining. Even around the War Memorial. I, for one, am happy and smile when someone interrupts my view and drags me a couple blocks just so I can gaze on it a little longer and ponder (I&#039;m just surprised it was Peter Shelton, whose aesthetics usually don&#039;t excite me). Albert Paley did that to me in the Houston Grand Opera, Alexander Calder did it in DC, and Monument Circle did it my first visit to Indy. I&#039;m glad Indy now has more awesome art.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I saw this sculpture first from a distance and was drawn to it like a magnet. I love it. It looks fantastic next to the library and adds some lightness and caprice – an odd smile to an otherwise austere and somber setting. The Giacometti/Salvador Dali-like slimman seems lost (likely because he has no head), wandering the city in search of truth (or a head!), and we below are helpless to assist because he is a menacing giant. And the donutbird reminds me of Billy Collins&#39;s poems, all of them, where little birds are always tangential to the plot (like <a href="http://www.poemhunter.com/poem/madmen/#" rel="nofollow">Madmen</a>). </p>
<p>What did ya&#39;ll want, a bunch of kids reading books? How about a monument to Thoreau or Emerson because, you know, they wrote books and this is, well . . . a library. Or how about <a href="http://www.traveloregon.com/upload/images/photos/attractions/300px-portlandia.jpg" rel="nofollow"> Portlandia </a>? I like Portlandia, but partly because it is juxtaposed against the postmodern Grave&#39;s building and isn&#39;t just another neo-classical element in a predictable and symmetrical neo-classical scene. </p>
<p>Public input ruins so many projects. The WWII memorial in DC is a fine example. Besides, your view is inundated by acres of economically efficient, garbage aesthetics that you had no say in defining. Even around the War Memorial. I, for one, am happy and smile when someone interrupts my view and drags me a couple blocks just so I can gaze on it a little longer and ponder (I&#39;m just surprised it was Peter Shelton, whose aesthetics usually don&#39;t excite me). Albert Paley did that to me in the Houston Grand Opera, Alexander Calder did it in DC, and Monument Circle did it my first visit to Indy. I&#39;m glad Indy now has more awesome art.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Hodapp</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Hodapp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 May 2009 08:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Vandalism masquerading as art, and an abomination to the building. It doesn&#039;t get much more inappropriate than this junk.</description>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 14:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These &quot;sculptures&quot; are hideous.  It looks like a junkyard threw up.</description>
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		<title>By: The Urbanophile</title>
		<link>http://www.urbanophile.com/2008/03/16/review-indianapolis-library-expansion-part-two-artwork/comment-page-1/#comment-1001</link>
		<dc:creator>The Urbanophile</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 01:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know who the artist was on that - sorry.  If anyone else knows, feel free to post.  You could also ask someone at the library - I&#039;m sure they could tell you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know who the artist was on that &#8211; sorry.  If anyone else knows, feel free to post.  You could also ask someone at the library &#8211; I&#8217;m sure they could tell you.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.urbanophile.com/2008/03/16/review-indianapolis-library-expansion-part-two-artwork/comment-page-1/#comment-997</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Mar 2008 21:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The coat hanger and donut look hideous. I thought that picture was a joke when I saw it. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;However, I do like the lights and shards of glass artwork in the elevator lobby of the parking garage. It&#039;s really cool. Does anyone know who the artist is? &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;(If you aren&#039;t sure which piece I&#039;m talking about, you can see some snapshots of it here: http://flickr.com/photos/heidiveronica/sets/72157604214706120/ )</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The coat hanger and donut look hideous. I thought that picture was a joke when I saw it. </p>
<p>However, I do like the lights and shards of glass artwork in the elevator lobby of the parking garage. It&#8217;s really cool. Does anyone know who the artist is? </p>
<p>(If you aren&#8217;t sure which piece I&#8217;m talking about, you can see some snapshots of it here: <a href="http://flickr.com/photos/heidiveronica/sets/72157604214706120/" rel="nofollow">http://flickr.com/photos/heidiveronica/sets/72157604214706120/</a> )</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 20:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think your right the &quot;coat hangar&quot; woould be great down towar FoSQ area...great idea!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think your right the &#8220;coat hangar&#8221; woould be great down towar FoSQ area&#8230;great idea!</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.urbanophile.com/2008/03/16/review-indianapolis-library-expansion-part-two-artwork/comment-page-1/#comment-970</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 13:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First and foremost neither of these pieces is pleasing to the eye given where they have been placed.&lt;br/&gt;They provide as symmetry as an empty quart bottle of Colt 45 sitting on one side of the steps and an car battery on the other.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First and foremost neither of these pieces is pleasing to the eye given where they have been placed.<br />They provide as symmetry as an empty quart bottle of Colt 45 sitting on one side of the steps and an car battery on the other.</p>
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		<title>By: Mordant</title>
		<link>http://www.urbanophile.com/2008/03/16/review-indianapolis-library-expansion-part-two-artwork/comment-page-1/#comment-967</link>
		<dc:creator>Mordant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 00:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While I usually enjoy or at least take some interest in modern sculpture, I agree that these particular works are grossly out of place and generally constitute a stick in the eye of the public.  Doubtless this makes the artist feel very good.  I&#039;m still waiting for an artist to show up overhead in a fire-fighting airplane, spray hog urine over the city, and then berate us for being philistines because we don&#039;t appreciate the deep meaning of the performance. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;At least these latest excretions weren&#039;t paid for with tax money; as the entry notes, &quot;These $750,000 sculptures are being paid for by private donors&quot;.  So there&#039;s that at least to be thankful for.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I usually enjoy or at least take some interest in modern sculpture, I agree that these particular works are grossly out of place and generally constitute a stick in the eye of the public.  Doubtless this makes the artist feel very good.  I&#8217;m still waiting for an artist to show up overhead in a fire-fighting airplane, spray hog urine over the city, and then berate us for being philistines because we don&#8217;t appreciate the deep meaning of the performance. </p>
<p>At least these latest excretions weren&#8217;t paid for with tax money; as the entry notes, &#8220;These $750,000 sculptures are being paid for by private donors&#8221;.  So there&#8217;s that at least to be thankful for.</p>
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		<title>By: &#38;amp; DAGGER</title>
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		<dc:creator>&#38;amp; DAGGER</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 19:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like the sculptures.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I think both the building and sculptures are energized when contrasted with each other&#039;s stylistic differences. I applaud the library&#039;s courage in selecting such polarizing art. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;It&#039;s great that this area is becoming a nice little hotbed of opposing aesthetic values. This adds visual interest and spurs conversations about the merits of each. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;As a side-note, they will be along the Cultural Trail which passes in front of the library.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like the sculptures.</p>
<p>I think both the building and sculptures are energized when contrasted with each other&#8217;s stylistic differences. I applaud the library&#8217;s courage in selecting such polarizing art. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s great that this area is becoming a nice little hotbed of opposing aesthetic values. This adds visual interest and spurs conversations about the merits of each. </p>
<p>As a side-note, they will be along the Cultural Trail which passes in front of the library.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 02:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to agree with your post and 12:51&#039;s comment - these sculptures are simply not appropriate for the Classic facade of the Cret building. I don&#039;t particularly dislike the art, and I can think of a lot of places where they would work well - along the Monon, for example, or on Mass Ave or College-near-BR.  Actually, the more I think of it, the cooler I think those locations would be.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;But here they just don&#039;t work with their surroundings and end up detracting from the library...and the library also detracts from appreciating the sculptures themselves.  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I am a moderate fan of the new library (except for the silver sides...).  But, like it or not, the new design did attempt to respect the Cret building and the mall by framing the Cret building and carrying on the library&#039;s role in bookending (as it were) the north side of the mall.  And while reasonable people can disagree as to how successful the attempt was, it is clear that the architects made an attempt to do so.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;The sculptures, on the other hand, are completely context free.  As U. pointed out, the coat-hangar (actually, it looks to me like rebar that is being placed there for the construction of the actual sculpture) is out of proportion with the building, while the donut doesn&#039;t match the coat hangar at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to agree with your post and 12:51&#8217;s comment &#8211; these sculptures are simply not appropriate for the Classic facade of the Cret building. I don&#8217;t particularly dislike the art, and I can think of a lot of places where they would work well &#8211; along the Monon, for example, or on Mass Ave or College-near-BR.  Actually, the more I think of it, the cooler I think those locations would be.</p>
<p>But here they just don&#8217;t work with their surroundings and end up detracting from the library&#8230;and the library also detracts from appreciating the sculptures themselves.  </p>
<p>I am a moderate fan of the new library (except for the silver sides&#8230;).  But, like it or not, the new design did attempt to respect the Cret building and the mall by framing the Cret building and carrying on the library&#8217;s role in bookending (as it were) the north side of the mall.  And while reasonable people can disagree as to how successful the attempt was, it is clear that the architects made an attempt to do so.</p>
<p>The sculptures, on the other hand, are completely context free.  As U. pointed out, the coat-hangar (actually, it looks to me like rebar that is being placed there for the construction of the actual sculpture) is out of proportion with the building, while the donut doesn&#8217;t match the coat hangar at all.</p>
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