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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.urbanophile.com/2008/06/25/the-urbanophile-conjecture/comment-page-1/#comment-1440</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 02:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By Kansas City, I suppose you mean Topeka? How does Lansing, with about 450,000 in the metro area, fit in?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By Kansas City, I suppose you mean Topeka? How does Lansing, with about 450,000 in the metro area, fit in?</p>
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		<title>By: The Urbanophile</title>
		<link>http://www.urbanophile.com/2008/06/25/the-urbanophile-conjecture/comment-page-1/#comment-1398</link>
		<dc:creator>The Urbanophile</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 20:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thunder, that&#039;s a nice summary of the potential underlying causes.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I don&#039;t think there&#039;s necessarily a causation conflict.  These things are self-reinforcing.  High income people support culture buildings, etc.  A strong cultural infrastructure attracts more high income people.  It&#039;s a virtuous circle, but also a chicken and egg question.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;When it comes to the jobs vs. people debate (do jobs attract the labor force or does the labor force attract the jobs?) it is the exact same thing, though I&#039;ve argued that the labor force seems to be the most critical, at least for the jobs of the 21st century (e.g. life sciences - as I like to say, you can&#039;t have a life sciences industry without life scientists).  Perhaps for the industrial age jobs it was the reverse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thunder, that&#8217;s a nice summary of the potential underlying causes.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think there&#8217;s necessarily a causation conflict.  These things are self-reinforcing.  High income people support culture buildings, etc.  A strong cultural infrastructure attracts more high income people.  It&#8217;s a virtuous circle, but also a chicken and egg question.</p>
<p>When it comes to the jobs vs. people debate (do jobs attract the labor force or does the labor force attract the jobs?) it is the exact same thing, though I&#8217;ve argued that the labor force seems to be the most critical, at least for the jobs of the 21st century (e.g. life sciences &#8211; as I like to say, you can&#8217;t have a life sciences industry without life scientists).  Perhaps for the industrial age jobs it was the reverse.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Russell</title>
		<link>http://www.urbanophile.com/2008/06/25/the-urbanophile-conjecture/comment-page-1/#comment-1397</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Russell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 20:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;These high-income people tend to support arts and culture clusters and charitable institutions.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;The causality arrow you describe (how a thriving city attracts cultural and intellectual elites) is that exact opposite of the Richard Florida Conjecture. Being the location of a state capital will ensure activity and investment downtown, which is a boon to creative types.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Government workers will support a strong service economy (e.g. restaurants) in the urban core. For the most part, that doesn&#039;t go away during a recession or economic transformation. Did Midwestern capitals have to deal with the kind of devastation other Rust Belt cities endured?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;The first thing that popped into my head when I read the post about Nashville is that I bet Chattanooga wishes it was the state capital during its bout with the evaporating industrial economy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>These high-income people tend to support arts and culture clusters and charitable institutions.</i></p>
<p>The causality arrow you describe (how a thriving city attracts cultural and intellectual elites) is that exact opposite of the Richard Florida Conjecture. Being the location of a state capital will ensure activity and investment downtown, which is a boon to creative types.</p>
<p>Government workers will support a strong service economy (e.g. restaurants) in the urban core. For the most part, that doesn&#8217;t go away during a recession or economic transformation. Did Midwestern capitals have to deal with the kind of devastation other Rust Belt cities endured?</p>
<p>The first thing that popped into my head when I read the post about Nashville is that I bet Chattanooga wishes it was the state capital during its bout with the evaporating industrial economy.</p>
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		<title>By: thundermutt</title>
		<link>http://www.urbanophile.com/2008/06/25/the-urbanophile-conjecture/comment-page-1/#comment-1389</link>
		<dc:creator>thundermutt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 13:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jim, perhaps The Urbanophile&#039;s observation is actually proof of Richard Florida&#039;s concept:  attract the cultural and intellectual elites and your city will thrive.  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I don&#039;t think the answer is in the anchor provided by government...anchors are deadweight, not dynamic.  Such cities obviously do have state and federal government clusters that provide extremely stable long-term employment with benefits and pensions; those don&#039;t typically attract the &quot;best and brightest&quot; but rather those looking for security.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;State capitals (in the aggregate) usually have more than the surrounding region of: lawyers, insurance and investment companies, regional/specialty medical centers and health-care systems, real-estate developers, media outlets (often &quot;the paper of record&quot; for the state, though the importance of such a thing in the new media age is definitely smaller than historically), advertising/pr shops, policy think-tanks, regional non-profits, statewide trade associations, state universities (and thus, scientific and social-science research centers).  These high-income people tend to support arts and culture clusters and charitable institutions.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;As Urbanophile has documented elsewhere, several of these state capitals have become &quot;net in-migration&quot; cities and he has speculated that they are magnets for the best and brightest from the small towns and cities in their state.  I tend to agree.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim, perhaps The Urbanophile&#8217;s observation is actually proof of Richard Florida&#8217;s concept:  attract the cultural and intellectual elites and your city will thrive.  </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think the answer is in the anchor provided by government&#8230;anchors are deadweight, not dynamic.  Such cities obviously do have state and federal government clusters that provide extremely stable long-term employment with benefits and pensions; those don&#8217;t typically attract the &#8220;best and brightest&#8221; but rather those looking for security.</p>
<p>State capitals (in the aggregate) usually have more than the surrounding region of: lawyers, insurance and investment companies, regional/specialty medical centers and health-care systems, real-estate developers, media outlets (often &#8220;the paper of record&#8221; for the state, though the importance of such a thing in the new media age is definitely smaller than historically), advertising/pr shops, policy think-tanks, regional non-profits, statewide trade associations, state universities (and thus, scientific and social-science research centers).  These high-income people tend to support arts and culture clusters and charitable institutions.</p>
<p>As Urbanophile has documented elsewhere, several of these state capitals have become &#8220;net in-migration&#8221; cities and he has speculated that they are magnets for the best and brightest from the small towns and cities in their state.  I tend to agree.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Russell</title>
		<link>http://www.urbanophile.com/2008/06/25/the-urbanophile-conjecture/comment-page-1/#comment-1388</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Russell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 04:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would look at the conjecture from a slightly different angle: If you are a Midwestern state capital with a population over 500,000, then economic development policy doesn&#039;t matter.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I&#039;d expect state capitals to weather economic transformations and exogenous shocks better than other cities because the bureaucracy anchors the downtown.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;You need to find a way to control for The Urbanophile Conjecture so we can better understand how agency is important.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would look at the conjecture from a slightly different angle: If you are a Midwestern state capital with a population over 500,000, then economic development policy doesn&#8217;t matter.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d expect state capitals to weather economic transformations and exogenous shocks better than other cities because the bureaucracy anchors the downtown.</p>
<p>You need to find a way to control for The Urbanophile Conjecture so we can better understand how agency is important.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 03:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, can you add something like  feed me drink me&#039;s blog that shows the latest comments?  I would love that@</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, can you add something like  feed me drink me&#8217;s blog that shows the latest comments?  I would love that@</p>
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		<title>By: thundermutt</title>
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		<dc:creator>thundermutt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 12:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did you look at Missouri and Oklahoma; Missouri is &quot;midwest&quot; culturally and geographically; OK is geographically so but culturally &quot;southwestern&quot; because of the oil and Native American influences.  Both capitals fit your rule.   &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;There may be another aspect that makes a smaller city &quot;play bigger&quot;:  the presence of a large state university.  I&#039;m thinking specifically of Madison.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did you look at Missouri and Oklahoma; Missouri is &#8220;midwest&#8221; culturally and geographically; OK is geographically so but culturally &#8220;southwestern&#8221; because of the oil and Native American influences.  Both capitals fit your rule.   </p>
<p>There may be another aspect that makes a smaller city &#8220;play bigger&#8221;:  the presence of a large state university.  I&#8217;m thinking specifically of Madison.</p>
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