Comments on: Louisville: The Case for 8664

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Sun, 27 Sep 2009 03:34:25 +0000

Things that make all the sense in the world, rarely get acomplished, the fault lies in the fact that they just make too much common sense

What always seems to get in the way is the political/vested interests.

Now that "His Honor...Mayor for life- Jerry" is now getting ready to make his stage left, that event still doesn't really make a lot of difference.

The political reality is that the "bridges solution" is so long frought at very much cost... wearing and tearing on everyone, none of us alive today are likely to ever to see the bridges and the destructive devistation of the attendent roadways that follow like an aftermath.

Having said all that, is there anything any of us can do about it?....Not in a pigs eye, but thankfully there are blog sites, where at least we can creatively vent. Individual impact on our surroundings is some how,out of the control of nominal ordinairy citizens. The real power is always out of reach and out of sight, and is closely held, by the decision makers. Whomever that may ultimately be.

I actually like the term "Movers & Shakers"....it gives the false impression that a certain segment of the populace can actually acomplish something while being wonderfully anonymous when they are ultimately powerless to deliver any thing useful.

By: Leigh

Leigh — Fri, 17 Jul 2009 12:00:53 +0000

To Anonymous – Do not forget about private development. That is what comes about when the riverfront is a more accessible, pedestrian – friendly, transit friendly place. People want to be there, walk beside the river, build condo's and restaurants along the river. Developers eye the potential for investment of their own money, not the governments money when we start to make good decisions.

By: Corbballspieler

Corbballspieler — Thu, 16 Jul 2009 17:15:41 +0000

Anonymous - do you have even a clue about how the 8664 plan would work? Have you ever visited their website or read even a shred of information on what they propose?

Obviously not, otherwise you would know that the 8664 plan (including the conversion of a portion of I-64 to an at grade parkway) saves 2 billion dollars! We can't afford not to do this project.

And for your information, You does not a majority of Louisvillians make! The reason some people may not care about the view is that they've never seen it any other way - or are travelling at high-speeds 30 feet above it, clueless to the fact that it even exists.

By: bluegill

bluegill — Thu, 16 Jul 2009 01:59:19 +0000

"social-economic and environmental injustice" is a major reason an additional downtown bridge was ever put on the docket in the first place.

Everybody in the Louisville metro who doesn't have millions in their pocket will pay in many ways for a small group that does.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Wed, 15 Jul 2009 19:55:19 +0000

While I admire your persistence in the endeavour, I do hope that you all understand that the vast majority of Louisvillians simply do not care at all about what the river front looks like. Furthermore, during this time of economic difficulty, raising inflation, never-ending war, and massive job loses, the money that would be required to finance the removal of I-64 is simply impossible. Given the failure of the downtown revitalization project and other city works projects, the practical realities of achieve your goals are increasable small. Both the city and the Commonwealth face massive debt issues as well. So, in short, there is no real hope that your work thus far will ever be realized. It is a shame therefore to see so much time, talent, and energy wasted, all of which could be- should be- focused on more immediate problems of social-economic and environmental injustice.

By: The Urbanophile

The Urbanophile — Sun, 12 Jul 2009 02:14:27 +0000

RR, it's kind of hard to study something when the agencies that would do it refuse to even take a look. Having said that, I lived on the far side of New Albany for many years and have no issue at all with 8664 making it hard to get downtown. Don't forget, it is also extremely easy to take Spring St. through to the Kennedy or Second St. bridge and be right downtown.

By: RR

RR — Sat, 11 Jul 2009 22:10:32 +0000

So, STILL, the answer to my question is that no one has studied the impact on New Albany….

By: Corbballspieler

Corbballspieler — Sat, 11 Jul 2009 11:24:16 +0000

RR,

Since you're speaking hypothetically, I'll respond in like kind based on my vision of what should happen if my dream of8664 were implemented:

Tell the bar/condo developer to locate his business/housing development next to one of the NA light rail stations so college students from UofL/JCC or IUS could get loaded at said hypothetical bar and ride the train back home to their dorms. Or someone who buys a hypothetical house/condo next to the station could walk to the train and work in downtown Louisville.

I also don't think traffic signals are intended for the hypothetical River Road Boulevard.

By: bluegill

bluegill — Sat, 11 Jul 2009 06:22:33 +0000

When the downtown Louisville section of I-64 was closed for construction with neither an at-grade parkway nor an East Bridge in place as alternatives as they would be with the 8664 plan, the New Albany Tribune ran a poll asking locals how they'd been affected.

The (paraphrased) choices were A) not at all B) just a little or C) a lot. A majority of respondents chose A and B.

By: Prospector

Prospector — Sat, 11 Jul 2009 00:53:01 +0000

8664 minimizes the need for another INTERSATE downtown bridge.

Future options (and much less expensive) are a Southwest Jefferson County Bridge and some sort of local access bridge from downtown to NA or Clarksville.

When I say future...I mean future.

Build the East End Bridge now.

PS For the growth folks out there, completion of the East End Bridge along with developments at Ft. Knox and Hardin County (NatBatt) will greatly accelerate the growth of the metro area.