<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0"
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"
	xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
	xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"
	xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/"
		>
<channel>
	<title>Comments on: Janette Sadik-Khan on Changing the Transportation Game</title>
	<atom:link href="http://www.urbanophile.com/2010/03/20/janette-sadik-khan-on-changing-the-transportation-game/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" />
	<link>http://www.urbanophile.com/2010/03/20/janette-sadik-khan-on-changing-the-transportation-game/</link>
	<description>Passionate About Cities</description>
	<lastBuildDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2012 16:28:26 +0000</lastBuildDate>
	<generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1</generator>
	<sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod>
	<sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency>
		<item>
		<title>By: Will Wiener</title>
		<link>http://www.urbanophile.com/2010/03/20/janette-sadik-khan-on-changing-the-transportation-game/comment-page-1/#comment-7648</link>
		<dc:creator>Will Wiener</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Mar 2010 20:28:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.urbanophile.com/?p=2548#comment-7648</guid>
		<description>Any positive comments about government and its relationship to infratsructure in New York are totally misplaced.
While cities throughout the country have built new transit infrastructure in the post war period, New York has only
its recently concluded connection to Kenndy airport as
an improvement over the past 60 or 70 years.

Meanwhile the 2nd avenue subway (begun in tnhe 70&#039;s)
is now supposed to be concluded by 2018 and the date
for an east side connection for the Long Island Rail Road
is now 2015 (another 70&#039;s idea)

The MTA now teeters on the edge of bankruptcy so noone
knows if these decades delayed , way over budget projects
will be further delayed.

Let&#039;s not let a few meager street or sidewalk enhancements
obscure the big picture when it comes to New York - a city
dominated by greedy unions and excessive government spending which leaves no room for infrastructure improvements.

While New York has stagnated new systems and new lines have been built nearly everywhere, even in economically challenged places like Cleveland and St. Louis.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Any positive comments about government and its relationship to infratsructure in New York are totally misplaced.<br />
While cities throughout the country have built new transit infrastructure in the post war period, New York has only<br />
its recently concluded connection to Kenndy airport as<br />
an improvement over the past 60 or 70 years.</p>
<p>Meanwhile the 2nd avenue subway (begun in tnhe 70&#8217;s)<br />
is now supposed to be concluded by 2018 and the date<br />
for an east side connection for the Long Island Rail Road<br />
is now 2015 (another 70&#8217;s idea)</p>
<p>The MTA now teeters on the edge of bankruptcy so noone<br />
knows if these decades delayed , way over budget projects<br />
will be further delayed.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s not let a few meager street or sidewalk enhancements<br />
obscure the big picture when it comes to New York &#8211; a city<br />
dominated by greedy unions and excessive government spending which leaves no room for infrastructure improvements.</p>
<p>While New York has stagnated new systems and new lines have been built nearly everywhere, even in economically challenged places like Cleveland and St. Louis.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Alon Levy</title>
		<link>http://www.urbanophile.com/2010/03/20/janette-sadik-khan-on-changing-the-transportation-game/comment-page-1/#comment-7618</link>
		<dc:creator>Alon Levy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Mar 2010 22:18:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.urbanophile.com/?p=2548#comment-7618</guid>
		<description>Hierarchists often like to experiment within the parameters of their vision: a war for a General, highways for Moses, pedestrianization for JSK. Once the top-level policy has been decided behind closed doors, it makes a lot of sense for the hierarchist to have a discussion about implementation. In terms of how much experimentation was involved, Moses was very innovative. He was just unwilling to waver on the basic parameter of turning New York into a CBD and suburbs, without neighborhoods, and neither is JSK.

American cities are great to live in despite government, not because of it. If you think about which areas are considered the most entrepreneurial - India, Israel, Ireland, the US - they&#039;re the places where government is so offputting good people don&#039;t want to work for it.

Bloomberg&#039;s management could learn some things from the Urbanophile consulting. Bloomberg&#039;s a master of the not-invented-here syndrome. Come to him with a matching software that could save the city $20 million on finding substitute teachers, and he&#039;ll find some excuse to brush you off. Come to him with a grassroots upzoning idea, and he&#039;ll ignore you in favor of a big business-friendly plan. And so on... being a good CEO at one company doesn&#039;t always make a businessman a good CEO at another company; why should it make him a good mayor?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hierarchists often like to experiment within the parameters of their vision: a war for a General, highways for Moses, pedestrianization for JSK. Once the top-level policy has been decided behind closed doors, it makes a lot of sense for the hierarchist to have a discussion about implementation. In terms of how much experimentation was involved, Moses was very innovative. He was just unwilling to waver on the basic parameter of turning New York into a CBD and suburbs, without neighborhoods, and neither is JSK.</p>
<p>American cities are great to live in despite government, not because of it. If you think about which areas are considered the most entrepreneurial &#8211; India, Israel, Ireland, the US &#8211; they&#8217;re the places where government is so offputting good people don&#8217;t want to work for it.</p>
<p>Bloomberg&#8217;s management could learn some things from the Urbanophile consulting. Bloomberg&#8217;s a master of the not-invented-here syndrome. Come to him with a matching software that could save the city $20 million on finding substitute teachers, and he&#8217;ll find some excuse to brush you off. Come to him with a grassroots upzoning idea, and he&#8217;ll ignore you in favor of a big business-friendly plan. And so on&#8230; being a good CEO at one company doesn&#8217;t always make a businessman a good CEO at another company; why should it make him a good mayor?</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: K</title>
		<link>http://www.urbanophile.com/2010/03/20/janette-sadik-khan-on-changing-the-transportation-game/comment-page-1/#comment-7613</link>
		<dc:creator>K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Mar 2010 01:08:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.urbanophile.com/?p=2548#comment-7613</guid>
		<description>True Aaron, and I would say pretty much the same thing about our Mayor Robert Doyle.  To effectively flip flop on previous statements and then take a posisition that is counter-intuitive to a lot of minds takes a large degree of bravery.  I&#039;d like to think all our leaders are capable of it.  If I&#039;ve noticed a trend it is that there are a number of traditionally conservative leaders doing this (Doyle is conservative and add Boris Johnston&#039;s recent love of cycling to the mix).  I love the idea that urbanism is a bipartisan issue, but that&#039;s getting off topic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>True Aaron, and I would say pretty much the same thing about our Mayor Robert Doyle.  To effectively flip flop on previous statements and then take a posisition that is counter-intuitive to a lot of minds takes a large degree of bravery.  I&#8217;d like to think all our leaders are capable of it.  If I&#8217;ve noticed a trend it is that there are a number of traditionally conservative leaders doing this (Doyle is conservative and add Boris Johnston&#8217;s recent love of cycling to the mix).  I love the idea that urbanism is a bipartisan issue, but that&#8217;s getting off topic.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Graeme Sharpe</title>
		<link>http://www.urbanophile.com/2010/03/20/janette-sadik-khan-on-changing-the-transportation-game/comment-page-1/#comment-7608</link>
		<dc:creator>Graeme Sharpe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Mar 2010 17:47:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.urbanophile.com/?p=2548#comment-7608</guid>
		<description>Thanks for bringing this to our attention.  I think JSK has done well at her job, and Bloomberg deserves to be credited for making New York a better place because of his leadership and her efforts.

I think the difference between her and Robert Moses would be that she advocates for small-scale &quot;improvements as experiments&quot; and then using those to build consensus.  Moses just wanted his own grand vision and damn the consequences.  Moses had no opportunities to gather feedback, whereas JSK integrates it into the process.

The idea that &quot;no government in the US is competent&quot; is just plain silly.  Our cities could always be better, but they are still great places to live.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for bringing this to our attention.  I think JSK has done well at her job, and Bloomberg deserves to be credited for making New York a better place because of his leadership and her efforts.</p>
<p>I think the difference between her and Robert Moses would be that she advocates for small-scale &#8220;improvements as experiments&#8221; and then using those to build consensus.  Moses just wanted his own grand vision and damn the consequences.  Moses had no opportunities to gather feedback, whereas JSK integrates it into the process.</p>
<p>The idea that &#8220;no government in the US is competent&#8221; is just plain silly.  Our cities could always be better, but they are still great places to live.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Lynn Stevens</title>
		<link>http://www.urbanophile.com/2010/03/20/janette-sadik-khan-on-changing-the-transportation-game/comment-page-1/#comment-7607</link>
		<dc:creator>Lynn Stevens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Mar 2010 17:19:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.urbanophile.com/?p=2548#comment-7607</guid>
		<description>I&#039;ve been thinking about this and your previous post in relation to what makes a city attractive.  Cities can focus on what might attract people to the city, what might make the city liveable, and/or what might keep people from leaving.  These are not mutually exclusive.  

Creating great places and great transportation design might attract people AND make it liveable given the role that design plays in our everyday lives even when we don&#039;t realize it (sometimes the best design is seemless, unnoticeable, and well-designed because of it). Keeping the train stations clean and the buses running on time, though, are what make it liveable and may keep people from leaving.  A great education system may both attract and keep people from leaving.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been thinking about this and your previous post in relation to what makes a city attractive.  Cities can focus on what might attract people to the city, what might make the city liveable, and/or what might keep people from leaving.  These are not mutually exclusive.  </p>
<p>Creating great places and great transportation design might attract people AND make it liveable given the role that design plays in our everyday lives even when we don&#8217;t realize it (sometimes the best design is seemless, unnoticeable, and well-designed because of it). Keeping the train stations clean and the buses running on time, though, are what make it liveable and may keep people from leaving.  A great education system may both attract and keep people from leaving.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: cdc guy</title>
		<link>http://www.urbanophile.com/2010/03/20/janette-sadik-khan-on-changing-the-transportation-game/comment-page-1/#comment-7604</link>
		<dc:creator>cdc guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Mar 2010 16:54:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.urbanophile.com/?p=2548#comment-7604</guid>
		<description>&quot;A standard practice of JSK is to stack rooms with supporters to create the pretense of community approval.&quot;

As someone with some experience on both sides of zoning disputes (not in NYC), this is far from rare behavior by both NIMBYs and project advocates.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;A standard practice of JSK is to stack rooms with supporters to create the pretense of community approval.&#8221;</p>
<p>As someone with some experience on both sides of zoning disputes (not in NYC), this is far from rare behavior by both NIMBYs and project advocates.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: The Urbanophile</title>
		<link>http://www.urbanophile.com/2010/03/20/janette-sadik-khan-on-changing-the-transportation-game/comment-page-1/#comment-7599</link>
		<dc:creator>The Urbanophile</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Mar 2010 11:28:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.urbanophile.com/?p=2548#comment-7599</guid>
		<description>K, I&#039;ve only got a sec here, but what you&#039;re describing of Bloomberg is not incompatible with strong leadership from the top. I ran some fairly sizeable teams and had significant budget authority in my day, though not Bloomberg levels obviously. But I&#039;ve always said my management philosophy is that I&#039;ve got two main responsibilities as a leader: to build the team that can get the job done, and to create an environment they can be successful in. As part of the latter, I&#039;ve always told people who work for me that they need to have ideas too, and they need to tell me what we need to do to make it happen. My analogy is that I&#039;ve got this big gun, and I need them to load it with ammo and help me figure out where to aim it. No leader can come up with 100% of the ideas himself. No good one at least.

The Streetsblog guys have some great quotes from Bloomberg&#039;s early days when he seemed to embrace traffic as indicative of a strong economy. But people made the case to him for a better approach, he saw the value in the that, and embraced it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>K, I&#8217;ve only got a sec here, but what you&#8217;re describing of Bloomberg is not incompatible with strong leadership from the top. I ran some fairly sizeable teams and had significant budget authority in my day, though not Bloomberg levels obviously. But I&#8217;ve always said my management philosophy is that I&#8217;ve got two main responsibilities as a leader: to build the team that can get the job done, and to create an environment they can be successful in. As part of the latter, I&#8217;ve always told people who work for me that they need to have ideas too, and they need to tell me what we need to do to make it happen. My analogy is that I&#8217;ve got this big gun, and I need them to load it with ammo and help me figure out where to aim it. No leader can come up with 100% of the ideas himself. No good one at least.</p>
<p>The Streetsblog guys have some great quotes from Bloomberg&#8217;s early days when he seemed to embrace traffic as indicative of a strong economy. But people made the case to him for a better approach, he saw the value in the that, and embraced it.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Alon Levy</title>
		<link>http://www.urbanophile.com/2010/03/20/janette-sadik-khan-on-changing-the-transportation-game/comment-page-1/#comment-7598</link>
		<dc:creator>Alon Levy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Mar 2010 05:30:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.urbanophile.com/?p=2548#comment-7598</guid>
		<description>Aaron, you&#039;re somewhat misrepresenting Bloomberg&#039;s victory. What happened was, Bloomberg decided that he wanted a third term, against overwhelming public opposition to lifting the city&#039;s term limits. He bribed city council with a promise of giving them a third term as well, and circumvented two separate referendums mandating term limits. He then spent tens of millions on reelection, scaring the heavyweight Democrats out of the race. The Democrat who won was a lightweight who had no positive campaign, and still managed to come in a few points short of victory against a Mayor with 70% approval rating. Bloomberg&#039;s victory is a reflection of the power of money in buying election; it&#039;s not popular will, and it&#039;s not democracy.

At any rate, my reference to authoritarianism isn&#039;t just a feature of the political system. It&#039;s a feature of process. Partly in response to Jacobs&#039; criticism of city planning, New York instituted the 197a process, allowing community boards to make plans for zoning. But the 197a plans are just a suggestion, and city practice is to ignore them and instead hand off large amounts of land to developers for megaprojects. The city isn&#039;t siding with the majority of the community, but with a tiny minority. A standard practice of JSK is to stack rooms with supporters to create the pretense of community approval.

Giving the community a voice does not mean stagnation. On the contrary, some community boards have embraced positive change, when the people made the correct pitch. For example, the community leaders of western Queens are still reeling from Moses&#039;s freeway plans. Thus, the community is very receptive to traffic reduction ideas on QB, such as widening the sidewalk; needless to say, JSK has not tapped into this support, as Queens is not part of the gentrified zone. Conversely, the community is less receptive to traffic calming ideas that close down intersecting streets, believing those are a precursor to turning QB into a freeway; however, even those got support when the street calming activists made the correct pitch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aaron, you&#8217;re somewhat misrepresenting Bloomberg&#8217;s victory. What happened was, Bloomberg decided that he wanted a third term, against overwhelming public opposition to lifting the city&#8217;s term limits. He bribed city council with a promise of giving them a third term as well, and circumvented two separate referendums mandating term limits. He then spent tens of millions on reelection, scaring the heavyweight Democrats out of the race. The Democrat who won was a lightweight who had no positive campaign, and still managed to come in a few points short of victory against a Mayor with 70% approval rating. Bloomberg&#8217;s victory is a reflection of the power of money in buying election; it&#8217;s not popular will, and it&#8217;s not democracy.</p>
<p>At any rate, my reference to authoritarianism isn&#8217;t just a feature of the political system. It&#8217;s a feature of process. Partly in response to Jacobs&#8217; criticism of city planning, New York instituted the 197a process, allowing community boards to make plans for zoning. But the 197a plans are just a suggestion, and city practice is to ignore them and instead hand off large amounts of land to developers for megaprojects. The city isn&#8217;t siding with the majority of the community, but with a tiny minority. A standard practice of JSK is to stack rooms with supporters to create the pretense of community approval.</p>
<p>Giving the community a voice does not mean stagnation. On the contrary, some community boards have embraced positive change, when the people made the correct pitch. For example, the community leaders of western Queens are still reeling from Moses&#8217;s freeway plans. Thus, the community is very receptive to traffic reduction ideas on QB, such as widening the sidewalk; needless to say, JSK has not tapped into this support, as Queens is not part of the gentrified zone. Conversely, the community is less receptive to traffic calming ideas that close down intersecting streets, believing those are a precursor to turning QB into a freeway; however, even those got support when the street calming activists made the correct pitch.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: K</title>
		<link>http://www.urbanophile.com/2010/03/20/janette-sadik-khan-on-changing-the-transportation-game/comment-page-1/#comment-7597</link>
		<dc:creator>K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Mar 2010 05:14:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.urbanophile.com/?p=2548#comment-7597</guid>
		<description>I see Alon&#039;s point about authoritive planning, because the working example is Robert Moses.  I suspect that the people at the NY DOT might argue that they did consult extensively.  But when Sadik-Kahn says it comes from the top, she&#039;s just being nice to Bloomberg.  It came from beneath, Bloomberg just supported it and &quot;sold&quot; it back to the people who might otherwise have objected.  

Dan Hill at City of Sound made a nice post about the topic of resident veto recently, I see Jarrett has also commented there.

http://www.cityofsound.com/blog/2010/02/emergent-urbanism-or-bottomup-planning.html

FYI Aaron, Dan Hill came up with the &quot;street as platform&quot; theory that you mentioned in an earlier post.  The original post can be read there.

http://www.cityofsound.com/blog/2008/02/the-street-as-p.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see Alon&#8217;s point about authoritive planning, because the working example is Robert Moses.  I suspect that the people at the NY DOT might argue that they did consult extensively.  But when Sadik-Kahn says it comes from the top, she&#8217;s just being nice to Bloomberg.  It came from beneath, Bloomberg just supported it and &#8220;sold&#8221; it back to the people who might otherwise have objected.  </p>
<p>Dan Hill at City of Sound made a nice post about the topic of resident veto recently, I see Jarrett has also commented there.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.cityofsound.com/blog/2010/02/emergent-urbanism-or-bottomup-planning.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.cityofsound.com/blog/2010/02/emergent-urbanism-or-bottomup-planning.html</a></p>
<p>FYI Aaron, Dan Hill came up with the &#8220;street as platform&#8221; theory that you mentioned in an earlier post.  The original post can be read there.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.cityofsound.com/blog/2008/02/the-street-as-p.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.cityofsound.com/blog/2008/02/the-street-as-p.html</a></p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: K</title>
		<link>http://www.urbanophile.com/2010/03/20/janette-sadik-khan-on-changing-the-transportation-game/comment-page-1/#comment-7595</link>
		<dc:creator>K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Mar 2010 01:44:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.urbanophile.com/?p=2548#comment-7595</guid>
		<description>I see the New York model as &quot;how it should be&quot;.  There is a theoretical basis for the program in the work of Jan Gehl, pushed by a dedicated public servant in Sadik-Kahn and championed by a willing leader in Bloomberg.

In my home town of Melbourne, the same story can be told in the development of Swanston St.  Gehl was the basis again, the project was pushed by the head of urban design Rob Adams and championed by the Mayor Robert Doyle.  Doyle was advocating re-introducing car traffic to Swanston St prior to election.  Not only has he seen the light but is valiantly promoting further changes to restrict vehicle access.

Gehl uses Copenhagen as a basis for work and often makes the point that Copenhagen was a series of small adjustments starting back in the 1960&#039;s rather than a single grand project (the need for a long term vision not withstanding).  A lot of small scale efforts have paid dividends for them.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_ndC07C2qw&amp;feature=related</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see the New York model as &#8220;how it should be&#8221;.  There is a theoretical basis for the program in the work of Jan Gehl, pushed by a dedicated public servant in Sadik-Kahn and championed by a willing leader in Bloomberg.</p>
<p>In my home town of Melbourne, the same story can be told in the development of Swanston St.  Gehl was the basis again, the project was pushed by the head of urban design Rob Adams and championed by the Mayor Robert Doyle.  Doyle was advocating re-introducing car traffic to Swanston St prior to election.  Not only has he seen the light but is valiantly promoting further changes to restrict vehicle access.</p>
<p>Gehl uses Copenhagen as a basis for work and often makes the point that Copenhagen was a series of small adjustments starting back in the 1960&#8217;s rather than a single grand project (the need for a long term vision not withstanding).  A lot of small scale efforts have paid dividends for them.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_ndC07C2qw&amp;feature=related" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_ndC07C2qw&amp;feature=related</a></p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
</channel>
</rss>

